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血源和魂系列其他作品的硬直系统基本相同。区别就是在魂系列里边韧性这个概念更加明显，而血源里冲击力的概念更加明显，因为攻略本里只写了但是很详细的写了冲击力(impact)，但实际上两个都在起作用。关于韧性和冲击力的关系可以参见B站【黑暗之魂3】韧性，冲击力，谁才是弟弟？ 这个视频。
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血源里的硬直大概可为分为三类
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一类是和韧性有关的，但冲击力也作用其中，也是本帖的主要内容。
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一类是只和冲击力有关的，也就是敌人无韧性但一定的霸体只能用较高的冲击力来打破。
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一类是和伤害有关的，积累伤害出的破坏部位。
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第三种就不涉及了，第一种是主要内容。如果以后有心情可能把二种也包括进去因为第二种相当于第一种的特殊情况。
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主楼里主要说一些基础内容，具体敌人例子放在后边。
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先说说冲击力这块，这个在攻略本里边也可以查到，虽然里边也有写错的，比如锯肉刀变形斩。本文涉及到的主要是以下几种冲击力：小，微，推，中，大，击趴，击飞这几种。和攻略本相对应：小微推在攻略本里是Light，中是normal，大是heavy，击趴击飞是massive。其中微是慈悲之刃的一些攻击，推是石锤圣剑后撤步r1以及其他一些工作会出现的推动作，但这两个不多见并往往和小没区别。
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削韧这块，一个很重要的问题是敌人韧性重置速度很快，体感大概三四秒不受攻击之后就会重置回满，因此如果敌人韧性很高的情况下中间中断了就会重头来。
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削韧具体数值可参考下图里的文件，冲击力也在里边。但电锯L2的削韧肯定是错的。
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但大致上轻武器的轻攻击在十几点，蓄力重攻击二十多，重武器的轻攻击的三十点左右，蓄力重攻击多可到六七十。比较快速打韧性的手段斧子大风车是45+39，葛拉提亚之拳一拳50，如果是跑步滑步接一拳75。下面具体敌人的例子虽然我都试过，但是难免会漏掉一些具体情况，在敌人某些特殊的霸体情况下可能打不出应该打出硬直也并不奇怪。
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圣职者野兽/劳伦斯
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韧性200，但破韧的一击时用小微推三种冲击力无效
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神父兽形态
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韧性35 破韧时小、微、推无效果，不出招时用大以上冲击力不破韧也有硬直但出招时不行？
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韧性110 破韧冲击力不限
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渴血兽 韧性35 不出招可以破韧。出招时基本无效，可能是对冲击力的免疫，可能是临时额外付与了100或90的韧性，但无论如何很难打破。
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黑兽 韧性150 中以下破韧无效。中或以上破韧有硬直，刚出放电动作时可打断放电。
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亚弥达拉 韧110 破韧后出一个大踉跄（冲击力不限）
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天界使者（大） 韧60 破韧冲击力不限
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宇宙之女 韧性300 小，微，推冲击力破韧无效，其他破韧后出一个半低头的硬直。
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兽模式 韧60 破韧冲击力不限，一些动作或无法打断
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剑模式 韧110 破韧冲击力不限，一些动作或无法打断
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不死巨人 韧性120 小，微，推冲击力破韧无效。出招中什么冲击力破韧貌似都无效。
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火狗 韧150 对同一部位（头，四肢）快速破韧后会原地停止并已吼叫结束该硬直。
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无情的看守者，未破韧时：冲击力大击倒击飞均出小硬直，以下无效
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破韧时：出冲击力相符的硬直，但出招时用小无法硬直。
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无头有头放血 韧110 破韧后原地思考人生（冲击力不限）
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重生古神 韧250 手或下半身，除推以外破韧出一个半伏身的硬直
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\u7834\u97e7\u7684\u4e00\u51fb\u9700\u8981\u4e2d\u4ee5\u4e0a\u51b2\u51fb\u529b","post_no":7,"type":"0","comment_num":5,"is_fold":0,"props":null,"post_index":6,"pb_tpoint":null}}" data-pid="128975596309" style='font-size:13.3333px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);'>
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韧80 微，小，推无效，中及以上造成一次硬直
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最快削80韧：斧子大风车，圣剑L2*2
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韧70 出招中 似乎没法硬直
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举斧防御中 会被破盾，但不会被破韧硬直
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既不出招也不防御时 削空出相应冲击力的硬直，不削空时大以上可出小攻击硬直
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韧35 破韧时造成与冲击力相符的硬直或位移
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未破韧时，大及以上的冲击力造成一个小攻击级硬直
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韧25
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未破韧时高冲击力也无法硬直（例，锯矛R2蓄力第二下）
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破韧的一击需要中以上冲击力
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DLC\u730e\u4eba \u97ad\uff0c\u7206\u70b8\u9524 \u97e735
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DLC \u66f2\u5200\u666e\u901a\u730e\u4eba \u7406\u8bba\u4e0a\u97e735 \u5b9e\u9645\u8868\u73b0\uff1a\u65e0\u52a8\u4f5c\u53ef\u4ee5\u7528\u5c0f\u51fa\u786c\u76f4\uff0c\u653b\u51fb\u52a8\u4f5c\u65e0\u6cd5\u7528\u5c0f\u6253\u65ad\uff0c\u4f46\u4e2d\u4ee5\u4e0a\u53ef\uff0c\u97e7\u6027\u6ca1\u7528?","post_no":8,"type":"0","comment_num":1,"is_fold":0,"props":null,"post_index":7,"pb_tpoint":null}}" data-pid="128975628006" style='font-size:13.3333px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);'>
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- hannibal125
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- 乌鸦猎人
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DLC斧大炮哥 未破韧时：冲击力大出小硬直，击倒击飞出中硬直，以下无效
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破韧时：出于冲击力相符的硬直，但微冲击力无法破韧（小可以破）
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DLC猎人 鞭，爆炸锤 韧35
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鞭精英 韧65 爆炸锤精英 韧75 曲刀精英韧55 （掉虫的）
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小，中冲击力想打断需破韧
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大冲击力无需破韧可打断
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击倒，击飞无需破韧可打断攻击，但需破韧才能击倒击飞
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DLC 曲刀普通猎人 理论上韧35 实际表现：无动作可以用小出硬直，攻击动作无法用小打断，但中以上可，韧性没用?
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8楼2019-12-23 07:39
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- hannibal125
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- 乌鸦猎人
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大鱼人 韧80 无冲击力限制
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韧34
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理论上韧性35 实际表现：微，小，推无效，中及以上造成一次硬直，击飞=大，但可击倒，韧性无用？
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韧25 小，微，推冲击力无法破韧
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未破韧时高冲击也无法硬直，但高冲击很少会打不破这个韧性
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9楼2019-12-23 07:45
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- hannibal125
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- 乌鸦猎人
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暂时是这些。
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10楼2019-12-23 07:49
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","post_no":11,"type":"0","comment_num":0,"is_fold":0,"props":null,"post_index":10,"pb_tpoint":null}}" data-pid="128975718133" style='font-size:13.3333px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);'>
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- 上帝求赐名
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- 乌鸦猎人
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来自Android客户端11楼2019-12-23 07:50
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- 埃勒洛
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- 重生古神
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来自Android客户端12楼2019-12-23 08:02
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- polly_24
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- 罗姆
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35这个数据设置的太恶意了，刚好就是锯肉刀r1+l1无法出硬直，不过鉴于锯肉刀性能已经够强了，倒也不意外
|
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13楼2019-12-23 08:23
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- 岸灬海的媚眼
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- 乌鸦猎人
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9
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很神秘
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来自iPhone客户端14楼2019-12-23 11:03
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- 药店的虎皮猫
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- 乌鸦猎人
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想请教下，驴德头感觉不管几周目多少伤害，好像都是两刀头一个小硬直，就是必定出一次动作打断，而不是爆头。这种多部件的boss，各部件韧性是分开算的吗？
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来自Android客户端15楼2019-12-23 13:18
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- 药店的虎皮猫
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- 乌鸦猎人
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说起来，迷宫吸脑哥的蓄力擒抱，遇到过一次斧子两段全中仍然不破韧直接被抱的情况。还没试过击倒招数能不能击倒。
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来自Android客户端16楼2019-12-23 13:21
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- LEMONed_Fish
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- 重生古神
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汉尼拔大人，你把我宝可梦世界拉回亚楠了。我开进进迷宫去重新感受san值
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来自iPhone客户端17楼2019-12-23 17:28
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- 幻耶
|
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- 血月之神
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12
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问个不相干的问题：加公开伤害的词条会增加内脏暴击的伤害吗？
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来自Android客户端18楼2019-12-23 18:25
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- hannibal125
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玛利亚
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普通状态无韧性，一些动作中韧性40。大以上冲击无需破韧可打断，中小需破韧才能打断，微与推破韧也无法打断。
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科斯孤儿
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不出招时一阶段55韧性，二阶段65韧性。
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出招中难以准确描述。但猜测如下：一些动作中削韧本身无效的可能性，例55韧性在不出招时攻击一次55-28=27，这时敌人出招中攻击一次韧性仍为27，动作保护结束后再攻击一次削空韧性出硬直，类似这样情况较为多见。一些招式附有韧性（+30，+50）的可能性也存在，但假如是30就会变成这样首先55-28=27，出招中受攻击一次27+30-28=29，那么出招结束后应该无法用28直接硬直，但实际一般都是可以直接再用28硬直。如果硬要解释的话就是额外附有的韧性如果没削完也会消失。但不凭借外部工具很难判断实际情况。
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这回是真完了，测这一堆我大概已经积累了三周不想玩血源的厌倦度。
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19楼2019-12-25 02:03
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能把枪反后孤儿打智障的大概是微和推两种冲击力，大概。
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当然能打出这两种冲击力的本就很少
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